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	<description>A technical look at the Raiser&#039;s Edge API from Blackbaud</description>
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		<title>By: Phil Robson</title>
		<link>http://www.re-decoded.com/2008/02/adjust-that-tax-claim-at-your-peril/comment-page-1/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Robson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree David, we dont set ourselves up to compete with the likes of Raisers Edge or other fundraising databases.

Many charities actually dont need the sophistication that fundraising databases offer. There is room for mamy flavours.

I would also say that our database compliments any fundraising database by concentrating on its core delivery - accurate Gift Aid/Tax claims by inbuilding HMRC rules and regulations.

However recording Gift Aid is the only income stream that leaves charities open to direct penalties from HMRC.

Having been involved with the development of Gift Aid RE from v7+ to V8+ I totaly understand the issues that RE has faced in developing its Gift Aid moudules.

Personally I feel RE is a robust piece of fundraising software. I also feel it adequately fulfills its place as a fundraising tool.

Phil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree David, we dont set ourselves up to compete with the likes of Raisers Edge or other fundraising databases.</p>
<p>Many charities actually dont need the sophistication that fundraising databases offer. There is room for mamy flavours.</p>
<p>I would also say that our database compliments any fundraising database by concentrating on its core delivery &#8211; accurate Gift Aid/Tax claims by inbuilding HMRC rules and regulations.</p>
<p>However recording Gift Aid is the only income stream that leaves charities open to direct penalties from HMRC.</p>
<p>Having been involved with the development of Gift Aid RE from v7+ to V8+ I totaly understand the issues that RE has faced in developing its Gift Aid moudules.</p>
<p>Personally I feel RE is a robust piece of fundraising software. I also feel it adequately fulfills its place as a fundraising tool.</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.re-decoded.com/2008/02/adjust-that-tax-claim-at-your-peril/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

I don&#039;t know your software but it is certainly interesting to see software dedicated to Gift Aid. The problem is that while it is certainly good at dealing with Gift Aid it may not cover the other areas a good fundraising software needs. This leads those who use your software with the dilemma of needing to integrate with their fundraising system.

As it happens the latest release of Raiser&#039;s Edge from Blackbaud while perhaps not the most elegant of solutions does make it much easier to work with Gift Aid than earlier versions. They have solved point 4 above (which in many cases was a show stopper). Clearly I am unable to compare to other software as I am not familiar with other software but they are certainly getting there (just slowly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know your software but it is certainly interesting to see software dedicated to Gift Aid. The problem is that while it is certainly good at dealing with Gift Aid it may not cover the other areas a good fundraising software needs. This leads those who use your software with the dilemma of needing to integrate with their fundraising system.</p>
<p>As it happens the latest release of Raiser&#8217;s Edge from Blackbaud while perhaps not the most elegant of solutions does make it much easier to work with Gift Aid than earlier versions. They have solved point 4 above (which in many cases was a show stopper). Clearly I am unable to compare to other software as I am not familiar with other software but they are certainly getting there (just slowly).</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Robson</title>
		<link>http://www.re-decoded.com/2008/02/adjust-that-tax-claim-at-your-peril/comment-page-1/#comment-578</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Robson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without understating the complexity of the process David our database handles this very easily.

It also handles many of the HMRC rules and regs.

We would be happy to discuss all things software / gift aid

Kind regards

Ms Phil Robson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without understating the complexity of the process David our database handles this very easily.</p>
<p>It also handles many of the HMRC rules and regs.</p>
<p>We would be happy to discuss all things software / gift aid</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Ms Phil Robson</p>
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		<title>By: David Zeidman</title>
		<link>http://www.re-decoded.com/2008/02/adjust-that-tax-claim-at-your-peril/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>David Zeidman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The example that I gave in the posting above was quite specific. It relies on the fact that a donor is out of the country i.e. not paying UK tax for a period of time. However the problem is also encountered when you want to change the fund, campaign or appeal (or in fact any field that is normally adjusted not just simply changed). Whenever there is a tax claim on the gift you have to use the tax claim adjustment process.

A client of mine had a meeting with Blackbaud about these issues. I was not at the meeting but from what I understand Blackbaud had said that it was never actually their intention to remove the ability to use the regular adjustment process for non-Gift Aid related changes. (This raises questions about their QA process). They said that they were aware of the recurring gift issue now and that they would look into. They also suggested that links between gifts were not really that necessary. After all it was only two clicks away to the other gift. They also said that they were very busy and that it would probably not be fixed until the next release i.e. 7.84! Apart from that they said that they were pleased with the way it was working. They had spent a long time consulting with HMRC and they too were please with the process.

It is all very well that Blackbaud spent such time with the HMRC. The last thing we would want is for the process not to be legal. However the HMRC do not have to use Raiser&#039;s Edge. They just need the reports it provides. It is a shame Blackbaud did not consult more with their clients about the whole process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The example that I gave in the posting above was quite specific. It relies on the fact that a donor is out of the country i.e. not paying UK tax for a period of time. However the problem is also encountered when you want to change the fund, campaign or appeal (or in fact any field that is normally adjusted not just simply changed). Whenever there is a tax claim on the gift you have to use the tax claim adjustment process.</p>
<p>A client of mine had a meeting with Blackbaud about these issues. I was not at the meeting but from what I understand Blackbaud had said that it was never actually their intention to remove the ability to use the regular adjustment process for non-Gift Aid related changes. (This raises questions about their QA process). They said that they were aware of the recurring gift issue now and that they would look into. They also suggested that links between gifts were not really that necessary. After all it was only two clicks away to the other gift. They also said that they were very busy and that it would probably not be fixed until the next release i.e. 7.84! Apart from that they said that they were pleased with the way it was working. They had spent a long time consulting with HMRC and they too were please with the process.</p>
<p>It is all very well that Blackbaud spent such time with the HMRC. The last thing we would want is for the process not to be legal. However the HMRC do not have to use Raiser&#8217;s Edge. They just need the reports it provides. It is a shame Blackbaud did not consult more with their clients about the whole process.</p>
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		<title>By: Adjust Tax Claim Functionality (UK) - Blackbaud User Society - Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adjust Tax Claim Functionality (UK) - Blackbaud User Society - Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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